Just going to say a few things after reading some threads. We apparently have some people who are either delusional, or who just have a very short term memory. First off let's talk about "the leadership" of this site. The idea that the site has gone downhill due to a lack of "leadership" is delusional. Troll fests were not something that started when Luke left, they were not something that started when rev left, they have always been here. Even before many of us left the official Sony forums to make this our regular site troll fests in the Socom community is something that has always been going on. My 50 page back and forth troll fest threads with guys like Swill when we had the S1/S2 vs S3/CA arguments all the time were going on at a time when virtually all of the staff were here and active. I'd go as far as to say the trolling on that scale with that kind of persistence where a thread would go on like that for a week has been rare these days. Then there is the delusion that perhaps we don't have a Socom game because the "Socom community is toxic" or that we somehow have the power to make a Socom game happen. We don't, we never had that kind of sway and we never will. Even if we were the biggest Sony boot lickers in the world, a Socom would not happen. If we were the most welcoming of all Socom fans of all iterations as well as all copycat products a new Socom would not happen. Nor would it have any affect on the attendance here. Socom forum attendance dies when we go through long periods of time with no new Socom news, not only here, that was always the case on Sony's Socom forums as well. When news of a new Socom came out the "dead community" would rise from the ashes each time for one reason, there was a new Socom game coming, not a rumor, something actually true and confirmed for people to talk about. Being as we are now on the longest drought ever of any news even hinting at a Socom with both Socom experienced devs shut down, the traffic is about as good as it's going to get. With the state of social media today, a lot more people would rather just join a facebook page they can follow rather then chance signing up for a fan site that is not run by a corporation name they know and don't know if they trust any of their info on here. So don't expect some huge surge just because of attitude changes or site redesigns because you're only setting yourself up for inevitable disappointment if you believe that. The large majority of Socom fans are not like us, we are the exception not the rule. Most Socom fans don't give two shits about sitting on a forum talking about the game, they don't care to sit and watch other people play the game. Most Socom fans attitude is "get back to me when an official announcement is made for the next Socom game, outside of that I don't give a shit about it". They don't care what we think about Socom, they don't care what clan we played with, they don't care about playing a glitch filled lagfest 10+ year old game on xlink, they don't care about playing an indie imitation, they would only look back this way if they have something new they can play with modern graphics that has a server on par with the stability of more modern online games. Unlike most of us they likely would expect both a new SP campaign along with MP play before they would even look in this direction again. Anyone who had some wet dream that when Luke left they were going to convince the people here that the site was broken and that they have the solution to fix it in order to try to step into that role definitely misjudged and I do believe not all but some of the recent critics and "toxic" narrative people believed they were going to be able to make the case to take over this site and run it the way they wanted to. If you want a Socom fan site and you want to dictate the behavior and control what people say then you better go make your own fan site. In fact, I would welcome that. After hearing all the lectures on how our "toxicity" is killing the site and the attendance I would absolutely love to see you people create your own site, mandate the type of behavior you deem worthy of growing the community, and then we'll watch and see how much you site snowballs. Don't preach to us, go out and show us how it's done. Set up your own Socom fan site and by all means put us to shame. I can already tell you that what you are going to find is a dead community because...let it come... let it come....there has been no Socom iteration since 2011, no news hinting at a Socom, and no dev with any experience with it in business. Most people do not want to sit around talking about a game that they assume is now obsolete and has been for 6 years.